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 Post subject: VA Legislator: Disabled Children are God's Punishment...
New postPosted: 25 Feb 2010, 12:16 
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RICHMOND – Western Prince William Del. Bob Marshall, R-13th, says disabled children are God’s punishment to women who have aborted their first pregnancy.

He made that statement last Thursday at a press conference to oppose state funding for Planned Parenthood.

“The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion with handicaps has increased dramatically. Why? Because when you abort the first born of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children,” said Marshall, a Republican.

“In the Old Testament, the first born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There’s a special punishment Christians would suggest.”

Marshall was among more than 20 people, mostly Christian pastors and clergy, who gathered for the press conference in the General Assembly Building.

They called on Virginia officials to eliminate state funding for Planned Parenthood because the organization provides abortions.

“We are gathered this afternoon to draw attention to the unethical, immoral and racist practices of the largest abortion provider in America,” said Dean Nelson, executive director of the Network of Politically Active Christians.

Delegate Brenda Pogge, R-Williamsburg, has joined Marshall in co-sponsoring a budget amendment to eliminate state funding for Planned Parenthood.

“I think that the reason it’s gone on so long is that most people don’t have a clue what’s being paid for by taxpayer dollars,” Pogge said.

The press conference was held by a group called Virginia Christian Action. Its members presented a petition calling on Gov. Bob McDonnell, Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling and Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli to stop funding for Planned Parenthood. All three top officials are Republican.

The petition was signed by a number of prominent Christian leaders, including the Rev. Jonathan Falwell of Lynchburg and the Rev. Pat Robertson of Virginia Beach.

McDonnell has publicly supported calls to cut off funding for Planned Parenthood. His predecessor, Democrat Tim Kaine, supported funding for Planned Parenthood.
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ETA: I think this would be better in the Abortion and Religion forum now that I think about it. Can it be moved there?

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 Post subject: Re: VA Legislator: Disabled Children are God's Punishment...
New postPosted: 25 Feb 2010, 12:46 
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Western Prince William Del. Bob Marshall, R-13th, says disabled children are God’s punishment to women who have aborted their first pregnancy.
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What about the women that, oh...I don't know, never had an abortion that have disabled children? Why is God punishing them? Btw, I'm actually hoping that Sarah Palin tears this douchebag one.

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The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion with handicaps has increased dramatically. Why? Because when you abort the first born of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children,” said Marshall, a Republican.

And if first born children have those handicaps? Ever think that it's not abortion, but pollutants that may be in food and water that get transmitted to the fetus during pregnancy that cause these handicaps? Oh, wait...my bad. Some people like you cannot think that far.

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“In the Old Testament, the first born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There’s a special punishment Christians would suggest.”

I find it scary as a former Christian that some Christians think like this. First of all, from what I remember through confirmation and bible study, the Lord didn't exist in the OT. If he did, Jews wouldn't be following the OT since...you know...they don't believe Christ to be their Lord and their savior.
Second of all, is this moron implying that the special punishment that Christians would suggest to to kill the first borns since that's what God did in Eygpt to those that don't follow them?

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“We are gathered this afternoon to draw attention to the unethical, immoral and racist practices of the largest abortion provider in America,” said Dean Nelson, executive director of the Network of Politically Active Christians

Racist? How the hell is PP racist? I don't recall them recommending that people of color abort and whites don't....you know, kinda similar to what Hitler did. Funny...and here I thought that most nationalists and racists were anti-abortion. Hell, that's what the Swedish Democrats and BNP are.

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“Looking at it from a cultural, historical perspective, this organization should be called ‘Planned Barrenhood’ because they have nothing to do with families, they have nothing to do with responsibility,” Marshall said.

You do know that barren implies being infertile, right? Last I checked, a woman can't have an abortion if she can't get pregnant :idea: Not to mention, Planned Parenthood does more to help families out than people like you do. You see, judgementment from the likes of you doesn't help ;)

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Nelson suggested that the organization be called “Klan Parenthood,” saying that the group’s founder, Margaret Sanger, made racist comments in the 1930s and that the organization has shown a “willingness to take donations from people who are racist.”

Oh, I see...because of what the founder said eighty years ago implies that anyone who works at PP or supports it is racist too. As I said earlier, there are racist and nationalist parties that do have an anti-abortion platform, so I doubt that racists like the klanman would support PP.

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According to Marshall, Planned Parenthood receives “about $500,000 a year” from the state.

But Jessica Honke, director of public policy for Planned Parenthood Advocates of Virginia, said the only state funding Planned Parenthood receives is from Medicaid reimbursements. That amount was about $35,000 in the 2009 fiscal year, according to the Department of Medical Assistance Services.

Ha! Look who got caught in a lie! See...you need to have hardcore evidence and facts to back up your claims like this woman from PP. Not based on assumptions and blowing things out of your ass.

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At the press conference, the Rev. Joe Ellison, vice president of the Council on Biblical Principles, said that when he was in college, he paid for girlfriends to get abortions. He said he still feels guilty about that today.

Ellison said he was “declaring war against Planned Parenthood.”

Ah, I get it. Because you bribed your girlfriends into making a choice they most likely regret because you threatened to break up with them because you didn't want to accept the responsiblity yourself once upon a time, you're going to make other people suffer because of your guilt. Suck it up and understand that this is evidence of why people like you should never have control over anyone's reproductive life, especially women. You don't know what the fuck you're doing at all.

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 Post subject: Re: VA Legislator: Disabled Children are God's Punishment...
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Western Prince William Del. Bob Marshall, R-13th, says disabled children are God’s punishment to women who have aborted their first pregnancy.
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What about the women that, oh...I don't know, never had an abortion that have disabled children? Why is God punishing them? Btw, I'm actually hoping that Sarah Palin tears this douchebag one.


I was thinking about this earlier today... I wonder how parents feel when disabled children are called "gifts" when you are good xtains and a punishment by women that have aborted it the past. It just continues the mentality that xtains love to be punished for one thing or another in this lifetime...

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